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157 – Przemek Lubecki – Focus on Process and Human Connection for Trial Success

Many people hate losing. Trial lawyers are no different. But can ignoring the thought of winning or losing a trial actually increase your chances of victory?

In this episode of Trial Lawyer Nation, Michael Cowen hosts attorney Przemek Lubecki of New Orleans law firm Morris Bart. Michael and Przemek cover many topics, from embracing the performative aspect of trial, making connections with jurors, and how focusing on the process instead of the outcome can lead to wins at trial. Przemek also shares a story about one of his proudest verdicts, the CEVA case.

Don’t miss out! Big Rig Bootcamp takes place on July 12, 2024 in San Antonio, Texas. Register at bigrigbootcamp.com.  

Featured Guest

Name: Przemek Lubecki

About:  Przemek Lubecki was born in Poland and practiced law in Chicago before landing in New Orleans. Przemek has tried over 100 cases to verdict, and his practice focuses mainly on personal injury lawsuits. He received his bachelor’s degree from Tulane University, and was a Golden Gloves boxer in Chicago after earning his law degree from Loyola University Chicago School of Law in 2005.

Company:  Morris Bart

Connect: LinkedIn

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156 – Sonia Rodriguez – Incredible Settlements Come From Being Ready for Trial

Like crashes, luck is predictable. If you want to get “lucky” and get multimillion-dollar settlements regularly, then you have to put in the time and do the work.  And it also helps to have the right mindset and strategy for your case.

In this episode of Trial Lawyer Nation, host Michael Cowen is joined by his partner Sonia Rodriguez. Tune in as Sonia explains the shift in mindset that led to her getting three multimillion-dollar settlements in the past six months on tractor trailer cases. Sonia and Michael also discuss the three things you need to get a big result on a big case, why you need to understand the sunk cost fallacy and Pareto Principle, and how (and why) Sonia gets ready for trial from the first deposition.

Don’t miss out! Big Rig Bootcamp takes place on July 12, 2024 in San Antonio, Texas. Register at bigrigbootcamp.com.  

Featured Guest

Name: Sonia Rodriguez

About:  Sonia Rodriguez, a native of San Antonio, Texas, is a partner at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock. Sonia has represented only plaintiffs for nearly 20 years, and she practices in the areas of personal injury trial and appellate law. Beyond the practice of law, Sonia has provided unwavering support to a number of important civic and community causes, including the Young Women’s Leadership Academy and the SAISD Foundation.

Company: Cowen Rodriguez Peacock

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155 – Big Rig Bootcamp – Your Gateway to Mastering Trucking Litigation

For trial lawyers seeking to level up in their trucking law practice, Cowen’s Big Rig Bootcamp is an unmissable opportunity.

In this bonus episode of Trial Lawyer Nation, host Michael Cowen is joined by Isabella Santellan, marketing director at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock to preview Big Rig Bootcamp. At Big Rig Bootcamp, you’ll take a deep dive into the trucking industry’s intricacies, including how companies use telematics (Michael’s firm bought a telematics system and currently has an expert on the road using it now!).  

The seminar will also show Michael’s strategies for how to put on the most persuasive direct expert testimony from a liability expert, show how you can make the insurance company pay when they claim there’s no coverage (or find other sources of recovery), discuss when to do (or not do) an inspection of the vehicles, and more!  

Don’t miss out! Big Rig Bootcamp takes place on July 12, 2024 in San Antonio, Texas. Register at bigrigbootcamp.com.  

Michael’s firm is growing! Cowen Rodriguez Peacock is looking for 2 mid-level associates with 3-5 years of civil litigation experience.  Listen to the episode for more information on how to apply!

Featured Guest

Name: Isabella Santellan

About: Isabella Santellan is the Marketing Director at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock. She was born and raised in San Antonio, TX. Isabella earned her B.B.A in Business Management from the University of Texas at San Antonio and is currently working on her M.B.A at Texas A&M University-San Antonio. As the Marketing Director, Isabella runs the firm’s social media, helps plan events, and works to ensure they provide an unforgettable experience to everyone they work with. In her free time, Isabella enjoys traveling, golfing, and spending time with her family. 

Company: Cowen Rodriguez Peacock

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154 – Lara Brock – Whether in Trial or Arbitration, Compete to Win

“In order to be a good trial lawyer, you have to have that innate sense of ‘let’s go, I’m ready to go.’”

In this episode of Trial Lawyer Nation, host Michael Cowen talks to seasoned trial lawyer Lara Brock of Espinoza & Brock, PLLC about her sports-oriented, competitive mindset that has influenced both how she practices law and serves as a leader within her law firm. 

Tune in as Michael and Lara talk about why it’s important to shift from the “family” mindset to the “team” mindset within your law firm, how to find your own voice as a trial lawyer, and why Lara’s firm handles worker’s comp cases in Texas while few other law firms do. They also discuss the strategy behind her firm’s repeated success in arbitration, and what Lara looks for in third-party cases. 

Don’t miss out! Michael’s book, Big Rig Justice: A Comprehensive Guide to Maximizing Value in Truck Accident Cases is now available!

Featured Guest

Name: Lara Brock

About: Lara is a senior partner at Espinoza & Brock, PLLC in San Antonio, Texas. Lara has worked with the Espinoza Law Firm since March 2011 and has focused her practice on non-subscriber injury cases, third party injury cases, and employment discrimination and retaliation cases. In doing so, she has presented cases at trial, has presented cases to arbitrators with the American Arbitration Association and Judicial Workforce Arbitrations, and has presented written appeals and oral argument before the Fourth Court of Appeals. She serves as Treasurer of the San Antonio Trial Lawyers Association and President-Elect of the Bexar County Women’s Bar Association. In 2016, Lara founded the Women’s Caucus for the San Antonio Trial Lawyers Association and is a steering committee member of the Women’s Caucus of the Texas Trial Lawyers Association. From 2021 through 2023, Lara served as the Vice President of Continuing Legal Education for the Texas Trial Lawyers Association.

A native of Roanoke, Virginia, she graduated sixth in her class from St. Mary’s University School of Law in May 2014. She received her undergraduate degree in Political Science and Spanish from Carson-Newman University in Tennessee, graduating summa cum laude with honors.

Company: Espinoza & Brock, PLLC

Connect: LinkedIn

Episode Highlights 

[03:37] Getting to Know Lara Brock: Lara knew from a young age that she wanted to compete every day so becoming a trial lawyer seemed like a natural fit. Lara is thrilled that she’s found a career where she can make a difference in real people’s lives, all while having a lot of fun. 

[06:47] A Law Firm is Like a Sports Team: You have to perform if you want to be a part of the team. It’s hard to make the shift from thinking of your law firm as a “family” to a “team” but it really does pay off when you do it. 

[11:09] “I’m Not Going to Let You Win”: It was a roofing fall case. Lara’s client was working for a “sub of a sub” on a roof and walked right off the edge. It was a flat roof, no fall protection. “I don’t care that my client’s undocumented, he shouldn’t have fallen off that roof. You chose not to have these protections and we’re going to go tell a story,” says Lara about a case where she got a $4.5M verdict where defense pulled the offer. The case is currently up on appeal.  

[16:14] Ask “Why?”: Lara shares how she’s found her own voice as a trial lawyer. She learned early on that just imitating another’s lawyer’s way of doing things wasn’t the route to success. 

[22:53] There’s No Such Thing as “Work-Life Balance”: From building a great practice, to taking on leadership roles in the Texas Trial Lawyers Association, the San Antonio Trial Lawyers Association, and the Bexar County Women’s Bar Foundation, Lara shares that getting buy-in from everyone around her has been key to her success. 

[26:18] Few Firms Do Workers’ Comp Cases in Texas, But Lara’s Does: When asked how her firm is able to do worker’s comp cases in Texas despite the limited fees, Lara responds, “Because that’s our purpose, that’s our base. We also found that a lot of times people just think that it’s a workers’ comp case and it’s not, and we started learning that we could help people in more than one way.”

[31:26] Plaintiff Lawyers Have Success in Arbitration Too: Lara shares “Just as big box retailers or companies that are frequently in arbitration find success, so do plaintiff’s lawyers…We have such a large practice of these arbitration cases that we also have some power with arbitrators because they know that we can keep them from getting business too, if they want to screw our clients over.”

[35:46] Third-Party Cases: A third-party case is where you’re suing someone other than the employer for a workplace injury.  Lara explains the things she looks for when taking on these cases.   

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153 – Sach Oliver – Depositions Are Trial

The road to success is paved with failure, but if a trial lawyer can learn from those failures, they will ultimately become a more effective advocate.

In this episode of Trial Lawyer Nation, host Michael Cowen sits down with trial lawyer Sach Oliver of Oliver Law Firm to discuss how lawyers can continually hone their skills by learning from their own failures, learning from other attorneys, and treating depositions as trial.

Sach also discusses his forthcoming book, Depositions are Trial, which will be released June 24, 2024 (Pre-orders May 1, 2024) and includes philosophies, strategies, methods, and techniques for pursuing the truth and zealously advocating for clients.

Don’t miss out! Michael’s book, Big Rig Justice: A Comprehensive Guide to Maximizing Value in Truck Accident Cases is now available!

Featured Guest

Name: Sach Oliver

About: Sach Oliver is an experienced trial attorney and CEO of Oliver Law Firm in Rogers, Arkansas.

Sach was raised in Viola, Arkansas, and attended Arkansas State University in Jonesboro, where he was a roper on the school’s rodeo team. After graduating from college, Sach attended the University of Arkansas School of Law, where he won “Best Oral Advocate” at the American College of Trial Lawyers’ National Trial Competition.

As a trial attorney, Sach has obtained numerous large verdicts for his clients in personal injury cases involving everything from 18-wheelers to environmental accidents. The Arkansas Trial Lawyers Association selected him as an Outstanding Trial Lawyer in 2015, and Sach was voted president of the Arkansas Trial Lawyers Association for the 2022 – 2023 term. He currently sits on the board of regents for the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys. He is one of only two board certified members of the ATAA in Arkansas.

Sach Oliver’s book, Depositions are Trial, will be released June 24, 2024, and will accept pre-orders beginning May 1, 2024. For more information about his upcoming book, visit depositionsaretrial.com

Company: Oliver Law Firm

Connect: LinkedIn

Episode Highlights 

[03:07]  Learning from Failure and Staying Humble: Experience is the best way to get better as a trial lawyer, and with experience comes failure. Learning from failure, staying humble, and always searching for the truth have allowed Sach to become successful as he zealously advocates for his clients.

[06:15] “Prepare to Confidence”: Confident attorneys are more effective, and confidence comes from being well-prepared. The more an attorney prepares for trial, the more confident they will be the in the courtroom, and the more confident they are in the courtroom, the more they are able to effectively represent their client.

[07:48] The 2×4 Timeline: Being creative with visual aids at trial will get the jury more engaged and more knowledgeable about the facts. Sach describes how he uses a 2×4 and wooden dowels to establish a timeline in his case in a way that is easily digestible for the jury.

[14:47] Learning from Others: One way to improve as a trial attorney is to learn from others in the field, whether it is another attorney or an outside consultant such as Phillip Miller. Watching more experienced attorneys work and discussing cases with colleagues will allow you to grow as a trial attorney so you can represent your clients more effectively.

[22:33] Depositions are Trial: Sach discusses his upcoming book, Depositions are Trial, and how his first jury trial helped him develop a philosophy that he continues to use to this day.

[24:32] Winning the Unwinnable and Losing the Unloseable: Sometimes small details such as an attorney’s talking speed can be the difference between winning an unwinnable case and losing an unloseable case.

[26:07] The Cowboy Way: Being patient, never giving up, and applying time-tested techniques allow a trial attorney to pull information from difficult witnesses and establish clear timelines that can be used to persuade a jury.

[34:37] A New Way of Thinking: Treat every deposition as if it were a trial. By using trial strategies such as visual aids, an attorney taking a deposition can become more prepared for trial and determine the best way to present evidence to a jury.

[36:54] Visual Culture, Five Senses, and Positive Repetition: Address the visual culture of a case through dynamic visual aids. For jurors who might not be visual learners, describe situations in such a way that all five of a juror’s senses are engaged. Bring home a point by using positive repetition, which means presenting the same or similar arguments in different ways to ensure all jurors are engaged.

[47:14] Preparing for a Truce: Diligently prepare for trial, but also be forthright with the insurance company. By allowing the opportunity for an insurance company to fairly compensate your client through a pretrial settlement, a trial attorney can get justice for their client without the need of a grueling trial.

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In this popular and award-winning podcast for trial lawyers, noteworthy author, sought-after speaker, and renowned trial lawyer, Michael Cowen explores critical topics distinctive to the legal profession with some of the biggest names in the industry – specifically focused on developing extremely efficient law practices, securing a competitive edge in the industry, and wildly excelling in the courtroom.

Produced and Sponsored by LawPods.