Episode

170 – Dirk Derrick – Leveraging the Transformative Power of Focus Groups

South Carolina PI attorney Dirk Derrick joins host Michael Cowen for an in-depth discussion about Dirk’s innovative approach to focus groups.

By prioritizing truth-seeking and empowering clients through data-driven decisions, Dirk’s team uses focus groups to maximize case values. Plaintiffs’ attorneys who want to learn more are invited to request access to his podcast, “The Appraisers,” where other plaintiffs’ attorneys share case studies from their focus groups.

Featured Guest

Name: Dirk Derrick

About: Dirk’s firm, Derrick Law Firm Injury Lawyers, has nearly 30 attorneys practicing in 10 locations across South Carolina. He has obtained information from 10,000 South Carolinians and watched 700 focus group juries deliberate. He partners with data scientists to develop a proprietary interactive database to analyze the data. 

Company: Derrick Law Firm Injury Lawyers 

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Episode Highlights 

[04:31] Prioritizing Client Service: Dirk shares his hiring strategy to ensure that clients have support not only from their lawyer but also paralegals, bills and records, and others. 

[06:37] It Starts on Social Media: Focus groups start by gathering participants; for Dirk’s team, that means inviting potential members via social media. From there, the process includes vetting the participants, presenting arguments, and following up with questionnaires.

[13:08] Game-Changer: Dirk explains how his focus group program has changed “every part of our practice, of how we build cases.”

[16:48] Insurance Leverages: Insurance companies have four main leverages over plaintiffs’ attorneys and their clients. Dirk outlines each.

[25:36] Everyone’s Invited: The firm’s focus groups include participants on all sides of any issue, including insurance adjusters and ex-defense lawyers. Dirk explains the strategy.

[31:39] The Appraisers: Plaintiffs’ attorneys are invited to request access to this closed podcast, where they can hear case studies from other lawyers who have used focus groups. Click here to sign up.

[35:36] The Anti-Marketer: Years ago, Dirk had a static website and did not actively market. One night, he told his wife that he planned to pursue a marketing strategy. She thought he’d gone crazy.

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169 – Sonia Rodriguez – Life Happens; Past Injuries Aren’t Fatal to PI Clients’ Claims

Rarely does a personal injury client walk in the door with a clean medical history. Aches, pains, complaints, chiropractic visits – “it’s just the reality of life,” says Sonia Rodriguez, host Michael Cowen’s colleague at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock.

In this conversation, Sonia and Michael discuss the art of strategically managing personal injury cases that involve preexisting conditions and subsequent incidents. Tune in for their insights about leveraging prior medical history, collateral witnesses, and creative tactics to secure successful outcomes.

Featured Guest

Name: Sonia Rodriguez

About: Sonia Rodriguez, a native of San Antonio, Texas, is a partner at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock. She has represented only plaintiffs for nearly 20 years, focusing on personal injury trial and appellate law. Beyond her practice, Sonia supports important civic and community causes, including the Young Women’s Leadership Academy and the SAISD Foundation.

Company: Cowen Rodriguez Peacock

Connect: LinkedIn  

Episode Highlights 

[03:39] Information Is Everywhere: Years ago, insurance adjusters had little access to a client’s medical past, but today, that information is readily available on robust databases.

[06:35] Quelling an “A-ha!” Moment: Anticipating that the defense lawyer would think he had an “a-ha!” moment when he discovered her client’s past neck surgery, Sonia told him at the outset.

[14:21] “SettLiT”: The team at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock has started using this new database that shows prior doctors, codes for treatment, and prescriptions. 

[18:33] Pain in the Neck: Sonia welcomes clients who have a history of going to the doctor for every rash, headache, or eye twitch because “you can see this person would have gone to the doctor if they had pain in the neck or back.”

[23:35] What’s the Story? The plaintiff’s lawyer must look deeper than the client or medical records – to coworkers and family, supported by photos and videos if possible.

[25:05] Metadata: Always check a photo’s metadata to determine when it was taken: before or after the injury? The defense will.

[29:42] If Something Can Go Wrong… Move cases quickly, because, as Sonia says, “the longer you live with a case on a litigation docket, on a trial docket, the more chances there are of something going wrong.” Michael offers strategies for managing a client’s new claim.

[36:24] “Judo Law”: Client had a minor health issue before their injury? Take what the defense thinks is a strong point and turn it into yours.

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168 – Mike Alder – Why Lawyers Need Discipline, Consistency, and a Spiked Meditation Mat

Three decades as a trial lawyer; 30 trials; more than $3 billion in verdicts and settlements; thriving practices: Ask Mike Alder how he does it, and his answer is simple. 

“Take a cold shower and make your bed.”

Make your bed, every day, because it teaches the discipline a trial lawyer needs. Prefer a warm shower? Take a cold one anyway, because stepping outside your comfort zone prepares a trial lawyer for dealing with stressful situations.

In this wide-ranging conversation with host Michael Cowen, Mike reflects on the personal habits (meditating on a spiked mat) and professional strategies (doing small disciplines over time) that have contributed to his success. Tune in to learn his equation for excellence, recipe for losing your life, and daily routines. They’ve taken years to develop, “but now, I’m cooking with gas, and that is what it takes.”

Featured Guest

Name: Mike Alder 

About: Mike is owner and senior trial attorney at AlderLaw, a leading Los Angeles firm that represents plaintiffs in personal injury, business torts, and employment litigation cases. He pursues all cases on behalf of his clients who have suffered injustices.

Company:  Alder Law | LinkedIn

Connect: LinkedIn | YouTube | Instagram | TikTok |  Email

Episode Highlights 

[01:33] “It’s a Good Living”: Over a three-decade career, Mike has 30 trials to his credit, with more than $3 billion in verdicts and settlements.

[03:34] Paying It Forward: Mike runs a program in which he pays half of a new lawyer’s trial costs and preparation costs if they agree not to settle for cheap, but rather try the case.

[07:33] Letting Go: Establishing his own firm, Mike discovered that he couldn’t handle both operations and big trials, so he learned to accept what he’s good at and hire the right people for other roles.

[11:10] Equation for Excellence: “Excellence equals consistent, mostly ordinary behavior done over time to create good habits that you combine with other good habits that make you excellent,” Mike says.

[17:03] A Good Pain: Mike swears by his spiked meditation mat because it “focuses the hell out of you.” 

[20:14] Dirty Words: Don’t say “work-life balance” in front of Mike or his wife. They believe the expression implies that “if I take this, then I take away from the other.” In fact, they say, you can “have it all” as long as you make priority decisions at certain times.

[26:54] The Common Denominator: Mike recently added a workers’ compensation practice that often crosses into employment law. Ultimately, “it’s all based around helping people.”

[29:18] “Per-chlor What?” When he took on a groundwater contamination case, Mike couldn’t pronounce the name of the chemical. But over time, he learned it, and he and the jury were speaking the same language.

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167 – Malorie Peacock – The Law Firm Manager’s Guide to Ditching Drama, Accentuating Accountability

“If you’re a lawyer listening to this podcast and you manage anybody,” says Malorie Peacock, “I think you can find some value in some of the stuff that we’re going to talk about.”

What Malorie and host Michael Cowen talk about is effective law firm leadership, and the “stuff” includes strategies for building a culture of accountability without workplace drama. Borrowing insights from Cy Wakeman’s revolutionary books, they share personal and professional experiences that they’ve applied as leaders.

Featured Guest

Name: Malorie Peacock

About: A name partner at Cowen Rodriguez Peacock, Malorie represents clients who have been injured by the negligence of others. Her experience includes working on commercial vehicle, trucking, and wrongful death cases.

Company: Cowen Rodriguez Peacock

Connect: LinkedIn | X | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube

Episode Highlights 

[05:27] Not a Good Fit: A healthy workplace culture has no room for employees who thrive on drama, fights, and politics. Michael’s message to those people is: “We want this a place where you don’t want to be anywhere close to it.”

[14:25] Lessons from Daycare: A song from her son’s daycare helped Malorie manage a frustrating episode with a mediator. Tune in to learn the jingle.

[17:16] Choose How to React: Michael’s minor broken arm reminded him that his clients go through worse. “Now I know what they’re going through a little bit more, but now it’s time to get back on.”

[18:14] Got BMWs?: Not the car. This acronym, coined by Cy Wakeman, describes a particular type of challenging employee. Michael suggests how the savvy manager can handle them.

[26:07] Accountability: Everybody thinks they’re personally accountable. But are they? Four key factors clarify what accountability means in practice. 

[28:55] Focus on Failure: While analyzing what went wrong can be instructive, too much of that focus can create a culture of emotionally expensive people, Malorie proposes.

[37:50] Power Up: A loss in the courtroom or in life is the time to access your personal power to affect the situation. 

[47:38] Suffering Is Optional: Channeling a tenet of Buddhism, Michael explains why effective lawyers and firms reject suffering when something doesn’t go their way.

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166 – Darryl Isaacs – In a World with Millions of Lawyers, You Can Stand Out

Host Michael Cowen chats with Darryl Isaacs of Isaacs & Isaacs Personal Injury Lawyers about personal branding and marketing.

Darryl shares his journey from starting his practice in Kentucky to becoming a widely recognized figure in personal injury law across several states, with his own trademarked nickname: “The Hammer.” From television advertisements to digital platforms, Darryl discusses his experience with a range of marketing tools. Ultimately, though, he suggests that any marketing must be aligned with a lawyer’s authentic, unique voice.

Want to learn more from Darryl? Call his cell.

Featured Guests

Name: Darryl Isaacs

About: Nicknamed “The Hammer,” Darryl Isaacs smashes through delays, red tape, and tactics that insurance companies use to keep from paying what their clients deserve. His practice focuses on auto accidents, commercial vehicle and truck accidents, and wrongful death cases.

Company: Isaacs & Isaacs Personal Injury Lawyers

Connect: LinkedIn

Episode Highlights 

[02:11] Heavy Hitter: Darryl recounts the genesis of his nickname, “The Hammer.”

[04:21] His “Secret Sauce”: With authenticity, putting others first, and not being selfish, “you’ll get a lot more in return,” Darryl says.

[10:56] “Would You Like Fries with That?”: Darryl’s early marketing efforts drew from his experience flipping burgers; he’d ask clients: “Do you know family? friends? Could I help them? And I was getting hundreds of cases a year.”

[13:52] Grassroots Marketing: Darryl suggests that lawyers compile a client list and reach out to them: “Word of mouth, I think, is the best.”

[18:09] The Epiphany: Injured in an accident in 2015, Darryl made a deal with God: If He let him walk again, Darryl would help other personal injury lawyers improve their skills.

[23:49] Gerry Spence Trial Institute: Darryl recounts his story of participating in the renowned institute – an adventure that started with him nearly turning around at the airport, worried he wasn’t good enough to join.

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